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Pride is a funny kind of word, because it can be a good quality or a bad quality. Having a "Gay Pride" march can be seen as declaring one's self *especially* proud to be gay, as if it's something better than not being gay.

But over the past few days I realized I *know* what Gay Pride means.


It means we ain't going away. You can't shame us back into the closet. You can't make us too embarrassed to face the light of day.

It means the battle's over, and the assholes lost, and they're still fighting, but that's because they're too stupid to know they've lost, and they're think causing pain is the same thing as fighting, and they think inflicting injuries is the same thing as winning.

It happens to a lot of losers, and it's when they can be their most dangerous.

We ain't going away. We're here. We're in your face, and you have no choice but to learn to fucking *DEAL WITH IT*.

And you can deal with it hatefully and angrily and scornfully, if you want to. Or you can grow up and if you used to hate gay folks, accept you made a mistake and start dealing with it. How you deal with the mistakes you make is your own personal mark of maturity, so make sure you do it right; you're buying a good sized chunk of what it means to be a responsible adult with your choice, so make the right one.

Now, some of you reading this, you know if I'm gay, or straight, or bi.

And some of you wonder why I'm saying "we". Am I including poly folks, or consenting perverts? Or am I (duh duh *DUUUUUH*) ONE OF THEM? (cue horror-film scream)

None of your flipping business.

But if it'll negatively affect your opinion of me, you might as well assume I suck dick twice a day, three times on Sundays, and bend over and beg for it like a bitch from every guy I think looks hot. Because, you see, as long as you think less of someone, because of who that person loves, it's damn well time you think less of me... because I love who I love, and I'm not asking your permission.

We ain't going away.

Deal with it.

Date: 2005-06-16 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
I see clearly why [livejournal.com profile] kightp loves you.

And this is going in my tagline file, with your permission:

... I *know* what Gay Pride means. It means we ain't going away. You can't shame us back into the closet. You can't make us to embarrassed to face the light of day. It means the battle's over, and the assholes lost, and they're still fighting, but that's because they're too stupid to know they've lost, and they're think causing pain is the same thing as fighting, and they think inflicting injuries is the same thing as winning. - John Palmer

May I link to this post? In, like, every community that might be even remotely interested in the subject (in a positive way)? It deserves to be read far and wide.

Date: 2005-06-16 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com
Yes, you have my permission for both, and thanks... it's the kind of message I want spread.

I think my brother Chuck is smiling down on me, too. :-)

Date: 2005-06-16 06:01 am (UTC)

Date: 2005-06-16 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pagawne.livejournal.com
HUGS What a wonderful way to put it. Now if only "Crawford's idiot" could read it and understand it.

Date: 2005-06-16 06:20 am (UTC)
kshandra: A cross-stitch sampler in a gilt frame, plainly stating "FUCK CANCER" (Pride)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
You rock in stereo.

Date: 2005-06-16 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliansinger.livejournal.com
Awwww yeah.

You rock. No doubt about it.

Date: 2005-06-16 06:50 am (UTC)

thank you

Date: 2005-06-16 09:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andreas_schaefer
It may be that it is my personal history, it may be that living in Germany's 'Gay city' where the gay pride parade the other year had 150 motorized floats and drew 1 million visitors. ( a fact that the cities tourist office is aware off and likes ) the first half of your post is old news for me, if not the exact words I have heard that before. It needs to be said over and over again until ( one hopes ) history makes it meaningless for these groups. ( though I think there will be others then )

No what is new , what I want to thank you for is the second part:

Now, some of you reading this, you know if I'm gay, or straight, or bi.

And some of you wonder why I'm saying "we". Am I including poly folks, or consenting perverts? Or am I (duh duh *DUUUUUH*) ONE OF THEM? (cue horror-film scream)

None of your flipping business.

But if it'll negatively affect your opinion of me, you might as well assume I suck dick twice a day, three times on Sundays, and bend over and beg for it like a bitch from every guy I think looks hot. Because, you see, as long as you think less of someone, because of who that person loves, it's damn well time you think less of me... because I love who I love, and I'm not asking your permission.

We ain't going away.

Deal with it.

That is the bit I dimly felt and had as yet no words for. Thank you for finding them

Date: 2005-06-16 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamjw.livejournal.com
What I really want to do is jump all over you and exclaim about how you're both simultaneously very cool and very hot...

...but I guess I'll settle for letting you know that I agree. Passionately.

Date: 2005-06-16 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyrwench.livejournal.com
Yes. Thank you.

Date: 2005-06-16 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barbarakitten-t.livejournal.com
john, you know i love you!!!!!!

this is one of the reasons why i love you....

Date: 2005-06-16 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kightp.livejournal.com
*smooch*

Date: 2005-06-16 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackthornglade.livejournal.com
Ain't playing with brains fun? Particularly when it's something like this?

Date: 2005-06-16 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exziler.livejournal.com
*drops by*


But if it'll negatively affect your opinion of me, you might as well assume I suck dick twice a day, three times on Sundays, and bend over and beg for it like a bitch from every guy I think looks hot. Because, you see, as long as you think less of someone, because of who that person loves, it's damn well time you think less of me... because I love who I love, and I'm not asking your permission.

Well spoken!

*goes to hide again*

Date: 2005-06-17 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-interpret.livejournal.com
That's a fantastic post, John. Thanks. :)

Date: 2005-06-17 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dandelion-diva.livejournal.com
Ah, I do adore you.:)

And I agree with every word you say here.

Gessi who is here, queer and used to it. *Grin*
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