Oct. 12th, 2012

johnpalmer: (Default)
Okay, I was browsing an article that linked to factcheck.org, and saw this:
(original link: http://factcheck.org/2012/10/veep-debate-violations/)

Ryan repeatedly criticized the Obama administration for calling Syrian President Bashar Assad “a reformer when he’s killing his own civilians.” At one point, Biden tried to interrupt Ryan to ask who had done so.

So, who’s right? Ryan.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a March 27, 2011, interview on “Face the Nation” explained why the U.S. would intervene in Libya, but not Syria — despite a recent attack by Syrian police on civilians. At the time, there were reports that as many as 20 Syrian civilians had been killed. Clinton called Assad a “different leader” who many in Congress believe is “a reformer.”

Clinton, March 27, 2011: There is a different leader in Syria now. Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he’s a reformer. What’s been happening there the last few weeks is– is deeply concerning. But there’s a difference between calling out aircraft and indiscriminately strafing and bombing your own cities, than police actions, which frankly have exceeded the use of force that any of us would want to see.


Am I the crazy one here? Didn't Hilary Clinton say "some people call him a reformer" and not call him a reformer herself?

Is *that* what counts as "fact checking"? That Hilary Clinton actually said the word "reformer" even though she was claiming that some believed that to be true?

I can understand an intellectually lazy person believing that Clinton called him a "reformer" and I can understand a liar saying that Clinton called him a "reformer" but I think anyone who's got any basic understanding of English who reads that for content (e.g., a fact checker) would say "Clinton said that some in congress think he's a reformer".
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I was the victim of a pickpocketing - I'm sure it was a terrorist attack, intended to secure funding for further attacks. Plus, I saw a person spit on the sidewalk. I'm sure that was another terrorist attack - biological warfare. There's no really strong evidence supporting that yet - but by golly, one should assume terrorist attack first, and not worry about evidence.

Similarly, I'm ashamed, yes, ashamed, of the Obama administration for not labeling the attack in Libya a terrorist attack from the instant the attack occurred.

Do you realize that Obama didn't raise the color coded threat level? He didn't increase security at TSA checkpoints either! Nor has he threatened to invade any unrelated countries, calling them the next front in the war on terror!

No, he waited - waited for intelligence reports! What kind of President waits for "facts" and "information" before decrying terrorism? George W. Bush didn't wait for facts!

Yeah, there's a choice in this election all right.

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