More thoughts about the soldiers who mistreated prisoners...

One of the things that's been said is that a lack of training doesn't excuse the types of mistreatment we've seen, and I agree. You don't need to be told that the Geneva conventions prohibit stacking up naked men in order to realize it's a nasty, humiliating thing to people you have a gun pointed at (whether it's your gun, or someone else's).

But, I did think about it more, and I do think that a lack of training *could* be a partial defense *if* there really were people, who could ordinarly be expected to be giving lawful orders, pushing the guards to do this to break prisoners down for interrogation.

( This is getting longish... )

More thoughts about the soldiers who mistreated prisoners...

One of the things that's been said is that a lack of training doesn't excuse the types of mistreatment we've seen, and I agree. You don't need to be told that the Geneva conventions prohibit stacking up naked men in order to realize it's a nasty, humiliating thing to people you have a gun pointed at (whether it's your gun, or someone else's).

But, I did think about it more, and I do think that a lack of training *could* be a partial defense *if* there really were people, who could ordinarly be expected to be giving lawful orders, pushing the guards to do this to break prisoners down for interrogation.

( This is getting longish... )

That's it...

What follows is a rage-filled rant. It was written under the influence of the following text.


But I can’t help grinning at the yelps of outrage from our liberal opinion-molders--the very same people who had nothing whatever to say about the genuinely ghastly physical tortures that Saddam Hussein inflicted on thousands of Iraqis over the years. At Abu Ghraib, by contrast, there are no allegations of physical torture. The pain was strictly psychological: having to strip naked, simulate sexual acts, wear hoods, and get hooked up to electrical wires that led to--nowhere. Oh, and chicks were on the torture teams, which to misogynist Muslim fanatics is a Very Bad Thing. But in all the photos I’ve seen, not a single pyramided body looks bloody, pained, or starved.



at http://www.iwf.org/inkwell/default.asp?archiveID=446

Let's forget the historical inaccuracy, because beatings, rape, and homicide are all being investigaged as we speak.

Let's just look at this talk about liberals not complaining about Saddam Hussein.

( Remember, I said it ain't pretty... )

That's it...

What follows is a rage-filled rant. It was written under the influence of the following text.


But I can’t help grinning at the yelps of outrage from our liberal opinion-molders--the very same people who had nothing whatever to say about the genuinely ghastly physical tortures that Saddam Hussein inflicted on thousands of Iraqis over the years. At Abu Ghraib, by contrast, there are no allegations of physical torture. The pain was strictly psychological: having to strip naked, simulate sexual acts, wear hoods, and get hooked up to electrical wires that led to--nowhere. Oh, and chicks were on the torture teams, which to misogynist Muslim fanatics is a Very Bad Thing. But in all the photos I’ve seen, not a single pyramided body looks bloody, pained, or starved.



at http://www.iwf.org/inkwell/default.asp?archiveID=446

Let's forget the historical inaccuracy, because beatings, rape, and homicide are all being investigaged as we speak.

Let's just look at this talk about liberals not complaining about Saddam Hussein.

( Remember, I said it ain't pretty... )

One more thing.

Congress needs to pass a law, *NOW*.

"Any entity that allows a right-wing commentator to have any control or oversight of fraternity or sororiety hazing shall be considered guilty of felonious criminal negligence."

One more thing.

Congress needs to pass a law, *NOW*.

"Any entity that allows a right-wing commentator to have any control or oversight of fraternity or sororiety hazing shall be considered guilty of felonious criminal negligence."